Merry Christmas

I wish you Merry Christmas Lisa skeptics!

I wish you Supernatural to be a zone free of:
- stupid characters
- females forced to the show
- females who change main characters the wrong way
- females who come out of the blue and completetly don't fit in the show
- characters who give women a bad name
- slutty women who are never called their reall name by the writers
- unimpressive women

In other words: such as you, Lisa!

The CW Lounge is shutting down

"The CWTV.com Lounge Message Boards will be closing on Wednesday, December 14th." - says CWModAlice.
That's a pity. It was a great place to discuss things, forcing the debate to Facebook is just a terrible idea. I know people will move to other message boards but I'll miss the posts. There were some really well written opinions.
CW, that is a really bad choice.

21. Because she gives women a bad name

Yes, point number 21 came to my mind after reading Becky unappreciation thread. Becky is an exmaple of poorly characterized fangirl. I guess you insulted half of the fandom one more time...
Anyways Lisa is an insult for all the women and Dean. Seriously, her storyline wasn't "cute", it wasn't "lovely". I believe fans are not 12-year old girls who scream and say "ooohhhhh..." when they see a couple on screen. So honeslty what did you think when you were forcing her to the show? And how is that you never realized you created a character with a personality of a psychopath?!?
Writers, you need to learn how to portray females properly. Fans are not against women on SN, they are against horrible bitches who don't get what they deserve :/

Happy Halloween and bye bye Supernatural

Good to know that Jensen also didn't like season 6. To me it was horrible becasue of Dean's degradation and I associate it with Lisa/Ben. Here is what Jensen said at the ChiCon:

Fan: What’s your favorite season of Supernatural?

Jensen: I know my least favorite – last season. And that would be personal issues with workload and storyline and the character. In the beginning of last season I guess I felt a little lost. Sam was soulless, so I didn’t have my partner in crime. But my character wasn’t actually progressing, it was just all about the progression of Sam, so selfishly I was like, come on, I understand it’s Sam’s storyline, but it was Dean-centric, so that was kind of throwing me off. We got through it and Jared did a great job, but I was glad to be done with that storyline. As far as my favorite, I still love Season One, just because of the formula – it was simple, it was tight, we were still getting to know each other, the characters were starting to develop and I liked the fun nuances between the brothers. And I liked that simple formula – the monster of the week episodes. I understand that the show needs the mythology and I applaud Kripke for how he did that but I do like the monster of the week episodes.   source

Later Jensen talks about the writing:

Fan: Is there ever a time when you read a script and you say to your character, “Dean! What are you thinking?”

 Jensen: All the time. Seriously. Usually just certain lines, because we get new writers. I know that every year they have to take at least one outside submission, so basically someone who has never written for the show. They understand the show because their script got picked, and it’s a good script, but it’s just that sometimes the dialog isn’t really true to character. So I’ll either sit down and rewrite the lines to tailor it to Dean or just call Sera or Bob and say “Hey, this particular scene doesn’t sound like Dean at all. That’s happened maybe twice this year. There’s a scene between Jared and I, Sam and Dean, in fact I think it’s the next episode, it’s the end scene. We have like a falling out, an argument. And I kid you not, the scene was like straight out of a romantic comedy. It was like a break-up between a woman and a man. Right out of a romantic comedy.  source

Yeah, I wish JA changed the script of M3TR, that was a total mess. Dean not being able to talk to Lisa and tell her to leave him alone, Dean not being able to tell the annoying brat that his family are Sam and Bobby... I mean: what the fuck?
Oh, I really wish JA changed the script of Let it Bleed... Dean leaving Sam in coma and going to save the slut and her spawn? And again not being able to tell her off? And crying at the end? Wuss! Wuss! Wuss!

I was watching Supernatural for Dean... but since Dean is gone (and judging by the comments on the boards he is gone in S7 as well) I decided not to spend my time on watching SN. Not until Dean comes back. Besides I fear that the writers will do something incerdibly stupid again. They destroyed five years of hard work just by forcing upon us Lisa and Ben!  A single line, a flashback, a memory... anything might ruin S7 so I'm not going to risk. I'll wait until the season (or show) is over and maybe then I'll watch.

Happy Samhain everyone.

Jensen on Dean’s goodbye to Lisa: “That’s never going to be his life. He’s a hunter and that’s how its always gonna be”

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Amen!

Now, the writers need to acknowledge this simple fact about Dean and start writing him properly.

I want the Dean of Season 2 again. Happy womanizer and a good hunter. No more questioning his job, no more whining. I'm sick of Dean's attitude from S5 and his demotion from S6.

Let it Bleed

Season 6, episode 21

I have mixed feelings about "Let it Bleed" and how the closure of Lisa/Ben storyline was handled. I said "closure" becasuse there are several factors to prove it:

- Lisa/Ben story was dragged out one more time because after M3TR the comments stated "it didn't seem to be the final end"
- why otherwise spend a whole episode on Lisa and Ben just before the finale?
- why make Lisa and Ben forget the past year, if not for getting rid of them for good?

So, yeas... it was a closure. The writers (in this case Sera Gamble) also mentioned twice during LiB that Ben is not Dean's son.

For the record: it has been said in "The Kids are alright", "Two and a half man", and twice in "Let it Bleed" that gives us 4 times when they clearly stated Dean is not the father! If he were, then the angles in season 5 could have use Ben as the vessel instead of Adam. Logic people!

Anyway, to clear things out, the demons repeated it in LiB. Yes, demons lie but in this case they confirmed what Lisa was saying and what the angles already knew. Besides, demons tell the truth when they know it is more painfull for the victims. Demons have their way to know such secrets. Like the demon posessing Lisa: demon knew Lisa was a slut (yes, yes.. my dear viewers you should also know that from TKAA), knew she regreted meeting Dean. And that is cool. Really. What is so not cool is Dean.

One more time I hated this idiot. This wasn't "the Dean" form previous seasons. I understand he felt guilty and responsible and furious when Crowley kidnaped Lisa and Ben, but hey... he didn't have to act like an emasculated creature.

It was a closure, although Dean didn't get to speak his mind and come to a good conclusion. No, Sera shoved her "love-boring-sotry" down our throats from the beginning of S6 till the very end. Many people on the message boards didn't expect Lisa/Ben storyline to be there for so long. Especially that it did not serve any purpose: Well, Dean was changed, deprived of all his great qualities after the year with Lisa. However, when Sam came back to Dean's life, Dean left Lisa and Ben immediatley.

- Their "relationship" was over in 6.02 episode. Dean & Lisa were not together.
- Then, there was vampire episode which should "end" Dean's hesitation whether to lead a "nomrmal life" or not but it didn't. It was such a waste opportunity. Dean & Lisa were not together.
- After few SN months there was the "truth spell" episode which showed Lisa's true colors but Dean was so OOC that he didn't dump her :( She dumped him. Which is kind of stupid because Dean and Lisa were not together!
- To my horror, the writers were trying to "close L/B" in M3TR... Dean and Lisa were not together for a.. half a year or long in SN world, so why the hell insert her and the brat to the episode?

So basically, after not being in a relationship with Lisa and her brat from the second episode of S6, Dean had to deal with these two annoying people one more time. And was there any conclusion? Any choice making on Dean's part? No! He spent a whole year as Lisa's puppet playing the role of her man and being a father figure for Ben, which made him miserable and unhappy yet he did not open his mouth to say: sorry Lisa, I'm a hunter. This is my life. Sam is my life and we've got job to do. I thought I'd like "nomral" life but I was wrong.

No love has been shown between Dean and Lisa. No love has been between Dean and Ben. No attachment. Just a pure feeling of responsibilty and failure on Dean's side. Just a pure need of having a man in her bed on Lisa's side. Plus her lack of compassion, lack of understanding, lack of warmth, lack of charm.

If Dean didn't come to a conclusion he is a hunter and he loves that, Lisa/Ben had no purpose on this show.

I'm torn when it comes to the mind-wipe solution. I understand other Lisa-haters that such a poor character doesn't deserve heroic death. Only the good characters die on Supernatural - that is the rule. Obviously Lisa doesn't deserve to join heroin's club. That would be a joke!
On the other hand however, death is the most final end. Dead Lisa would not bother anyone. She wouldn't pop out without any warning someday in the future. Lisa left alive creates danger of bringing her back. It is hope for L/D shipers. Actually, from what I've found on forums, they are convinced Lisa and Ben would be back.

I could live with such a solution. But the execution of L/B closure was poor. It wasn't anything special requireing waiting untill the finale episode. It didn't require keeping Lisa and Ben in the background for so long. It was simple. It should've been done after 6.02. But most important it only made Dean look like stupid loser. If the writers kept Lisa and Ben for the whole season then something good should've come out of this story and it's closure. I was waiting for Dean to realize he loves his life as a hunter, just as he did back in seasons 1,2,3. After all S6 was advertised as coming back to origins - well, bullshit!

I hated the last hospital scenes of Dean. Lisa is not Jess. She was just a horny, not responsible mother who took a complete stranger to live with her. Dean crying and being so emotial about, after all not-dead woman and her not-dead kid, is so OOC. Another attempt to force on us the imporance of slutty Lisa. I mentioned Jess because I fear that the writers would write Dean in S7 as the other/next brother who lost "the love of his life". That would be the continuation of re-writeing of SUPERNATURAL.

Fandom power!

Thank you fans of Supernatural for posting your comments. I thought nobody was reading this blog ;) I am going to write a short review of the finale soon.

Scary just got boring!

Oh my God! After publishing the spoiler from Ben Edlund about Lisa and Ben in the finale there are a lot of discussions on the message boards. Lisa skeptics can't see anything good coming from 6.21 episode.
Let me just say that Dean is being compared to a "spider killer hero" - nothing more.

This horrible character and horrible storyline destroyed Supernatural. I dread watching the finale because it can either repair what's been broken or ruin my interest in this show completely.

But to be honest, like other Lisa haters, I don't have high expectations when it comes to the resolution of Lisa/Ben storyline.

The Man Who Would Be King

Season 6, episode 20

Dean talking to Cas:
"next to Sam,you and Bobby are the closest things I have to family".

I'm pretty sure Lisa & Ben would have been mentioned.... if they were somewhat important to Dean. They weren't, hahahah

Jefferson Starships

Spoilers ahead.

I guess it's about time for a new entry... I recently didn't post anything new since there were only Lisa-free episodes. However I came to conclusion that I can't watch Supernatural like I used to do it before. Now, I see this show in a completely new light, through Lisa f*ing Braeden lens. "Thanks" to Lisa and her annoying brat I wanted to slap Dean in his dull face during Mommy Dearest. How many times am I going to be forced to watch experienced hunter who is so... soft and useless when he sees kids? Unable to think clearly?
I really, really wanted him to get hurt and I wanted Cas and the others to insult Dean... for not taking his own advise:

"You know who whines? -Babies"

Maybe the monster-kids were supposed to remind Dean and Sam of themselves but to me it was a message: "Dean likes kids because he loves Ben and is thinking about him". I hate that. I hate the fact that we're suppose to believe Dean cares about Ben. He does, in a way.. because he cares for all the people (God knows why).

But Ben in particular? Ben is an artificial child. Children around 9 or 10 years old don't behave like he did in TKAAR. They hardly ever listen to AC/DC, dress like rock stars and are intrested in girls (!?!). Children raised by singles mothers don't like their "new uncles", don't trust them and certainly don't get attached to them so easily. Apparently Ben is super-stupid kid who thought Dean was his new daddy/slave (and also that his mother goes to bed with men on the third date... hahahaha - writers, was this joke intentional?) and started whinning like a girl in M3TR.

You see? I can't watch Supernatural. The magic is gone, all I see now is a comedy. No, wait... "a parody". That is a perfect word. Because how can you call episodes that are just pure fan service? I should be glad that second half of S6 mercifully offered Lisa-free episodes but I'm not. I'm not a fan of meta/comedic/strange - I don't know how to call them - episodes. I don't find them funny at all (The French Mistake, Frontierland, Clap You Hnads When You Believe - 1st half) and they are fillers. Nothing more. I feel like I was served five good episodes out of 19 so far. Episodes with Lisa and Ben are by default horrible, the rest is devided into fanfiction and the good ones.

Yeah... so many episodes to watch! (said with irony if you didn't notice). Speaking of irony: I wonder whether a person who wrote the description of 6.21 knows what that is.

"DEAN’S WORST NIGHTMARE COMES TRUE – A demon kidnaps Ben (guest star Nicholas Elia) and Lisa(guest star Cindy Sampson) to get to Dean (Jensen Ackles). Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean are forced to join with an unlikely ally to free them. Sera Gamble directed the episode written by John Showalter (#621)."

After such note even people indifferent about this storyline started ranting. Some were unpleasently surpirised this story is not over yet, some of them haven't noticed the moment when a bitch and her brat had become more important than Sam. I find a little comfort in the fact the hate for Lisa on message boards is growing. But that can't totally compensate the loss of my favourite TV show.

I don't get what is so difficult in understanding WHY fans hate Lisa.

I can divide the anti-Lisa stuff into groups:

1) Her behaviour - she's worse than prostitues on this show. Why? I hate woman who are sluty but pretend to be someone better than they really are. She is not responsible person, she got pregnant with some random guy but even after that "incident" didn't change. Of course she lives in the suburbs but all we know about her is that she chats with her neighbours about her ex-lovers and supposedly is a yoga instuctor (yoga my ass ;) ). She can't maintain a normal relationship for the sake of her son.

When Dean visited her after 10 years from the moment they had sex (one night stand!!), she invited a stranger to live with her. Becaouse yes... Dean maybe saved her kid, but was just a starnger. You don't know a person just because you spent a night with him/her. How responsible is that? That's not normal. You don't invite e.g. a fireman, a policeman or whoever who rescued your kid to live with you! That was very awkward.

About two years after that, when Dean went to her (without speaking or thinkikg of her for the entire period of time - so another "WTF?" moment) she was willing to take him in. She was at home, as usual... waiting to invite a stranger.
What kind of mother does that? Desperate, alcoholic, abusing drugs...

2) Her character - there was never any indication that Dean Winchester could be intrested in a woman like this. She doesn't make you say "WOW" (jaw falls down) when you see her and hear her. She's the worst kind of woman IMO. I despise "housewives" who don't have ANY character. And this is Lisa: boring, bland, unsophisticated, simple like not very well educated person, woman. She doesn't have any connections to supernatural world - she's not an expert on anything, she's not a hunter and she's not intrested in all that stuff. What could Dean possibly talk with her about? Teeth whitening?
There is no connection between them on any level. It's not possible that ordinary wowan from the suburbs could be appealing to "the Dean Winchester".

3) Her storyline - which was about... boring life in the suburbia and a kind of instuction "how to make a hunter's life miserable". This terrible mother put her needs (mainly the need of having a man in her bed) first. She didn't care both for her child's wellbeing nor for Dean's. As long as he played house with her she didn't care. It was kinda insulting for Dean that he had to stay for a year with a woman with whom he couldn't really share his thoughts and fears and who didn't accept him. Lisa expected Dean to switch from one life to another swiftly. Which eventually brought this show the soap-opera zone.

4) She destroyed one of the main characters - yes, Dean was rewritten to fit to her. That's outrageous that he was out of character. He didn't act more mature and was so soft because of his deep feelings for Lisa and Ben. No, he was a wussy, whiny, wimp in an unhealthy relationship. The "old DW" wouldn't be like that when his brother was in Hell.

5) It was poor choice of actress - this is a topic for another discussion.


I hate every single thing about this character and storyline. It started with "WTF?" moment when Lisa first opened her door. Soon I discoverd that it was all this stupid cow could do: open the door.

The 6.21 is comming and though I know it is filmed and ready to be aired I feel like I must say something. Some of the anti-Lisa fans speculate Lisa might be a supernatural creature... which would explain all the stupid behaviour and the lack of feelings, chemistry and understanding. I'd like that. But I don't trust the writers. They don't seem to acknowledge what is wrong with Lisa, Ben and this whole mess - ergo... they didn't fix that.


My patience is almost gone. Now, I almost hate this show. If Lisa and Ben are not gone for good after finale, I'm done with this show.

BTW, rename it please! "Jefferson Starships" would be appropriate title. Because... Lisa and Ben are horrible and hard to kill.

Will Lisa and Ben be back?

Ausiello: “They will be back,” Jensen Ackles confirmed to TVLine at Paleyfest ’11.
“I can’t say necessarily how, but that story will be explored and it will be explored heavily. I think there’s a part of [Dean] that was left with them. But I think he knows deep down that it would never work. And I think that’s going to be a very emotional situation that he’s going to have to deal with.”

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Well, I can't say I didn't see it coming. "The end" from 6.14 didn't seem final. However, if SG is going to show the Lisa-Ben-Dean story as an epic love... then sorry. This is not what I am waiting for. Fans know that the only epic love on this show is "Sam & Dean".
It's not just me, I've been checking out message boards (also the ones in languages other than English) and I must say... the wish of the majority of fans (regarding this storyline) is to get rid of Lisa and Ben for good. And what's important people don't want angsty, wussy Dean - enough already!

And Then There Were None

Season 6, episode 16

Nope, no "Lisa" and I haven't heard her name. However, a mysterious question asked by Sam caught my attention: Why did Dean keep talking about herpes?

Hmm....Lisa? (stupid question ;P )
Poor Dean.... hahahaha

Discussion on the boards

I have said many things about the character of Lisa and this storyline. I really hate the destruction she caused both to the show and to the character of Dean. After the 6.14 episode and supposedly "the end" of Lisa/Ben/Dean story, I was thinking about all the reasons why SN should never ever end like a soap-opera (e.g. with Dean going to Lisa).
Since I'm not a very eloquent person, I'd like to present an interesting post written by Ravanne which points out not mentioned before issues :

The idea that some Lisa fans keep floating around, that Lisa is meant to be Dean's "end game" and that he will end up with her when the series wraps up is one that I find really frustrating. Even if you had an emotional investment in Lisa as a character and her relationship with Dean, a bit question has to loom. Just how long is Lisa supposed to sit around and wait for Dean to figure out what he wants in life?

Seriously... this whole senario of Dean being this helpless creature buffeted by the winds of fate is just grating on my nerves. Dean is a grown man, folks! An emotionally damaged one with more issues than the archives at National Geographic, but is is an adult. He is capable of making decisions for himself. If he wanted to stay with Lisa, or to find a real balance between having both a domestic life and being with his brother, he certainly didn't fight for it. He wasn't trying to convince Lisa to give it another chance, or to explain what happened. He just accepted her decision to end things.

When he accepted her decision, without trying to change her mind, that was making a choice. His rational was weak - that he's not worthy of being with her and he'll ruin her and Ben. But he made a choice. If he wanted to be with Lisa as much as the LisaShippers insist, why didn't he fight just a little bit? Instead the whole thing was simply played out as a reason to give us another double-dose of MopeyDean with his personal Black Raincloud of Saddness over his head.

And as for Lisa... whether you like this character or not, she is entitled to have a happy life, whether with Dean or in another realtionship. How long is she and Ben supposed to put their lives on hold until Dean gets his act together? They never confirmed Lisa's age in the show, but I always got the impression that she was a few years older than Dean. At the youngest, this is a woman in her mid-thirties now and time isn't standing still. Her son is going to be a teenager before long. Their lives can't stop just because Dean can't figure out what he wants to do with himself. If Lisa meets someone that can make her happy and give her and Ben the lives they want, then great for her! Ben's already spent most of his life without a father figure - should he have to wait until he's a grown man himself before Dean comes to the decision that he wants to take Ben to Little League games? At the rate Dean is going, Ben will have kids of his own by the time Dean figures things out.

How long should Lisa have to wait for Dean? It already has been given the impression that she's waited at least since TKAA for Dean to come back into her life. Should she put her life on hold until she's old and gray and maybe Dean will decide to be with her? That's not fair to her. I've never hidden my dislike for her as a character, but as a woman the idea that any female should be expected to sit around and wait because she might be good for a man when he finally gets his act together... the word for that is "pathetic".

Source

Will Sera Gamble be the showrunner for season 7 of Supernatural?

I don't know if it was announced or not, I might have missed that information. I also haven't seen a confirmation that there is going to be S7 of Supernatural. However, my wish is that someone would replace Sera. The "girly" attitude didn't work well on this show. I truey hated the the Lisa/Ben storyline.

Lisa was reintroduced to the show at the end of season 5, when no viewer actually remembered who she was. Lisa and her son Ben were just a filler for Dean's story in season 6. Dean had to be placed somewhere during the one year when he wasn't with his brother.

The decision of choosing Lisa and Ben was one of the wrost made on this show because there was no indication during seasons 3 - 5 that Lisa was someone important. Even more, there was no indication that Dean could be interested in someone like her. We were told completely different things about Dean. This man couldn't possibly fell in love or even be interested in boring, selfish, undecided, single (bad) mother.

This is how Lisa was written: first (in S3) introduced as independent though a little sluty woman, then (in S5) desperate single who willingly invited stranger to live with her and her child. In season 6 she was supposed to be the caring and loving one who helped Dean to deal with his grief. But the writers didn't manage to show that. Instead, Lisa and her brat, were presented as an obstacle in Dean's life. Lisa clearly didn't care about Deans feelings, his year of misery was the best of her life. He wanted to leave her the minute he saw Sam, but she manipulated him into staying. She had unreasonable expectations: wanted him to go, stay, go and saty again, and hated the most important person in Dean's life - Sam. She didn't care about his drinking problem and separated him from the people who cared about him (e.g. Bobby).

You can't call that love. That was sick and unhealthy relationship.
This is way it makes me angry that Sera Gamble blindly went that way. Till the end.... beacuse in 6.14 episode, the writers were trying to sell this storyline as an "epic love".
The conversation between Lisa-Dean, Dean-Ben was unreal and showed more inconsistency in writing.

One more time Dean was out of character while being around Lisa. He was written that way almost in every single episode of the first half of the season. And please don't convice me that he acted more mature and was so soft because of his deep feelings to Lisa and Ben. No, a real love doesn't make you a wussy, whiny, wimp. It doesn't suck out of you all your powers, strength and dignity. A real love makes you stronger and invincible.
Yet, in M3TR, Dean has been made a fool by demanding Lisa and her spawn.

Sera Gamble made a one big mess with season 6 and too many plotlines. To my horror, she focused on the one wich was really needless to the show - the Lisa/Ben storyline.Also Robo!Sam story was dragged for too long.

Another factor that was against the Lisa/Ben/Dean storyline, was the fact that there wsa absolutely no chemistry between the actors. Not even a single sparkle. Nothing. JA did everything he could and as usuall presented the best of him. But this was like flogging the dead horse. I always knew that the choice of the actress - Cindy Sampson, wasn't good.She and Jensen look awkward together on screen. It is really a mistery to me because JA has a great chemistry with everyone, even with the objects.

If Sera only concentrates on reviews like this: "OMG, that was freakin' awesome!" written in big pink (or green) font by teenage girls, then I'm not surprised that overtanned, hungry for "smoosh smoosh" Snooki-Lisa was on SN for so long.

I'm so disappointed by first half of S6 which looked more like a parody and soap-opera than original SN, probably because it was based on fanfiction stories.

So, comming back to the queston: will Sera be the showrunner? Probably yes because my wishes hardly ever come true.

Sam: What's a snooki?

Well, Sammy this is a Snooki. Very dangerous monster:

- Hard to kill.
- Gender: female
- Reproduces really quickly.
- Important abilities: manipulate men (usually by using her offspring) in order to get some "smoosh smoosh"
- Other abilieties: open the door, open the door, open the door, open the door......

Question for Sera: Where is my Supernatural?

Mannequin 3: The Reckoning - Season 6, episode 14

I think the 6.14 episode was the worst for me when it comes to Lisa/Ben.
It started ok, because I thought it was a good sign that Dean didn't want to pick up a call from Lisa. I was glad that Dean was reluctant to leave Sam and go to the Braedens. But what happened at Lisa's house.... was a total crap for me. There was emasculated Dean. Lisa was saying her annoying part about her feelings - he didn't say anything. Ben was saying his stupid (oh, God reallly stupid!) things suggesting that Sam was not a family - Dean didn't react. Seriously? Even at the end of 5.22 it was said that Sam & Dean chose a family (meaning each other) and now, out of the blue, the writers try to convince us that Lisa and Ben are the family for Dean? Thanks, but I don't buy it. I hate it. I hate that Dean was such a wuss and didn't stand up for Sam and didn't say loud and clear that he chooses hunting.

Honestly, SG you didn't do your homewrok. Viewers were expecting an END. A real "end" with no open door for Lisa/Ben's comeback. There is a clear message coming from the boards (oh, other than TWoP): people are tired of Lisa and Ben. Tired of what Braedens do with Dean. Everybody (not just Lisa haters) is pissed that Lisa and Ben were forced to an episode without any purpose in it. And one more time we had to watch stupid wuss instead of Dean.

I don't know if you missed that or not... but Sam is the "family" not a random slut with a kid.

That was the worst episode of S6. Sera Gamble you're the master of turning a great show into an unwatchable soap-operish horror.

Unforgiven

Season 6, episode 13

Dean cheking what happened to the  brunettes and stareing at a photo of one of them. The photo was shown to the camera at least twice, so that the audience could see the resemblance between the missing woman and Lisa.
I hope it was only to remind us that there was such a character like Lisa, so that people wouldn't be surprised to see her in 6.14....
Well, I didn't enjoy this subtle reminder at all.

Supernatural fanfiction not fun

It is so sad that almost the whole season 6 is based on fanfiction stories. Don't the writters have their own ideas? That is not a good sign for the show. I hate fanfiction. I don't forbid anyone to dream, fantasize or whatever... and write it down.
But when the stories that have nothing in common with the original idea of the show (well, except the names of the characters) start to live their own lives and affect the show, it is time to change the channel.
Lisa/Ben storyline, Dean pretending to be a "daddy" - this is pure fanfiction. For the sake of the SN show and the old, devoted fans, fanfiction should last only on fanfiction websites.
Lisa storyline is the best proof that adjusting fan's work can change the core of SN into something unrecognizable.

Like a Virgin

Season 6, episode 12

I was waiting and waiting... and I had great expectations about this episode. However, it wasn't perfect.
Lisa in the "The Road So Far" section was a bad sign. That was the first moment when I rolled my eyes. The second one was when Sam asked Dean about the promise. And yeah... Lisa was mentioned. The whole scene was short but still I was hoping we left "Dean the Whiner" behind. Now I'm not so sure. He wasn't happy when he explainded that "it didn't work out" and it is highly probable he is going to presented as the loser. Angsting, mooning loser!
For me it very clear that he should feel relieved when he escaped Lisa's house.  Because ending the relationship with a woman like Lisa doesn't make anyone a loser. It indicates that you have quite high IQ.

Just a small reminder for those who don't remember her: Lisa is a slut with a 12-year old son Ben, lousy mother, who rather prefers to have a man (any man) in her bed than care for her child. She is manipulative, the year of Dean's misery was the best of her life and she hates Sam. She compared him to her sister whom she'd never bring to life (if the sister was dead and Lisa had the posiibility to bring her back).

"Sera Gamble you are doing a great job" - ha ha just kidding

Dear showrunner, producers, writers of Supernatural,

I am a fan since I have seen the Pilot episode. I have watched all episodes so far... This show was fantastic because it was different than all others. Finally a show without stupid romance storyline. A show about two brothers hunting supernatural things. Two brothers who cared for each other and were fighting against all evil of the world.

So what the hell have you done to my show?
I know all episodes and I am sure there were no indications that Dean wanted a "normal life" with wife and a kid. No! Re-watch if you don't believe me! Of course there was one scene, totally out of the blue, in 99 Problems when Dean went to Lisa and said some stupid things. Yes... that was one scene telling us that he was thinking of "normal". But one scene in the five-season show is not good enough when you constantly were telling a story about Dean who was womanizer, wanted his brother with him, loved his job. I am not buying your new story and I feel offended.

I kindly ask you to repair the damage you have done to the show. Write off the worst character: Lisa and her son Ben. It is a shame that you let a minor character change completely one of the main characters (Dean) and destroy the dynamics and core of SN.

Since you have written Lisa as a manipulative bitch why won't you just kill her (like other female characters)? Because of Ben? Please, that is ridiculous. Ben does not need such a lousy mother, besides he has a family (e.g. aunt) or you could send him to Jessy the anty-christ boy (who is living in his safe, imaginary world).
And... what is important... don't make Dean feel sorry or miserable (that's funny) because of Lisa's death.
Don't you remember that the "real old Dean from seasons 1-3" would be glad to see the bitch, who hates his brother, fry extra crisppy?

Summing up, Lisa Braeden must die.

yours disappointed fan

Lisa Braeden must die

Now that we know Lisa and Ben are going to be in 6.14 pro-Lisa fans awakened. They make completely reasonable comments:
* Dean goes to Lisa & Ben because they are in danger. Him going there to protect them is a proof of how much he cares.

My question is: where was the logic and reasonable thinking when writers threw Dean into Lisa's house? There was no reason for doing that. She wasn't even mention since season three, it was so obvious that Dean didn't give a shit about them! Well.... that doesn't bother Lisa lovers.
Sera Gamble, showing Dean rushing to Lisa, is waaaaaaaaaaay too late to make the fans believe Lisa & Ben are important. Just kill the bitch already!  

Bleeeechhh

So, it's official:
"We'll see Ben and Lisa again before the season ends."
That is not new information but still it makes me wanna puke. Seriously, everytime I see the name "Lisa" I feel.... deceived and insulted (by the showrunner).


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