Monday, May 30, 2011
Fandom power!
Thank you fans of Supernatural for posting your comments. I thought nobody was reading this blog ;) I am going to write a short review of the finale soon.
Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Scary just got boring!
Oh my God! After publishing the spoiler from Ben Edlund about Lisa and Ben in the finale there are a lot of discussions on the message boards. Lisa skeptics can't see anything good coming from 6.21 episode.
Let me just say that Dean is being compared to a "spider killer hero" - nothing more.
This horrible character and horrible storyline destroyed Supernatural. I dread watching the finale because it can either repair what's been broken or ruin my interest in this show completely.
But to be honest, like other Lisa haters, I don't have high expectations when it comes to the resolution of Lisa/Ben storyline.
Let me just say that Dean is being compared to a "spider killer hero" - nothing more.
This horrible character and horrible storyline destroyed Supernatural. I dread watching the finale because it can either repair what's been broken or ruin my interest in this show completely.
But to be honest, like other Lisa haters, I don't have high expectations when it comes to the resolution of Lisa/Ben storyline.
Sunday, May 8, 2011
The Man Who Would Be King
Season 6, episode 20
Dean talking to Cas:
"next to Sam,you and Bobby are the closest things I have to family".
I'm pretty sure Lisa & Ben would have been mentioned.... if they were somewhat important to Dean. They weren't, hahahah
Dean talking to Cas:
"next to Sam,you and Bobby are the closest things I have to family".
I'm pretty sure Lisa & Ben would have been mentioned.... if they were somewhat important to Dean. They weren't, hahahah
Monday, May 2, 2011
Jefferson Starships
Spoilers ahead.
I guess it's about time for a new entry... I recently didn't post anything new since there were only Lisa-free episodes. However I came to conclusion that I can't watch Supernatural like I used to do it before. Now, I see this show in a completely new light, through Lisa f*ing Braeden lens. "Thanks" to Lisa and her annoying brat I wanted to slap Dean in his dull face during Mommy Dearest. How many times am I going to be forced to watch experienced hunter who is so... soft and useless when he sees kids? Unable to think clearly?
I really, really wanted him to get hurt and I wanted Cas and the others to insult Dean... for not taking his own advise:
"You know who whines? -Babies"
Maybe the monster-kids were supposed to remind Dean and Sam of themselves but to me it was a message: "Dean likes kids because he loves Ben and is thinking about him". I hate that. I hate the fact that we're suppose to believe Dean cares about Ben. He does, in a way.. because he cares for all the people (God knows why).
But Ben in particular? Ben is an artificial child. Children around 9 or 10 years old don't behave like he did in TKAAR. They hardly ever listen to AC/DC, dress like rock stars and are intrested in girls (!?!). Children raised by singles mothers don't like their "new uncles", don't trust them and certainly don't get attached to them so easily. Apparently Ben is super-stupid kid who thought Dean was his new daddy/slave (and also that his mother goes to bed with men on the third date... hahahaha - writers, was this joke intentional?) and started whinning like a girl in M3TR.
You see? I can't watch Supernatural. The magic is gone, all I see now is a comedy. No, wait... "a parody". That is a perfect word. Because how can you call episodes that are just pure fan service? I should be glad that second half of S6 mercifully offered Lisa-free episodes but I'm not. I'm not a fan of meta/comedic/strange - I don't know how to call them - episodes. I don't find them funny at all (The French Mistake, Frontierland, Clap You Hnads When You Believe - 1st half) and they are fillers. Nothing more. I feel like I was served five good episodes out of 19 so far. Episodes with Lisa and Ben are by default horrible, the rest is devided into fanfiction and the good ones.
Yeah... so many episodes to watch! (said with irony if you didn't notice). Speaking of irony: I wonder whether a person who wrote the description of 6.21 knows what that is.
"DEAN’S WORST NIGHTMARE COMES TRUE – A demon kidnaps Ben (guest star Nicholas Elia) and Lisa(guest star Cindy Sampson) to get to Dean (Jensen Ackles). Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean are forced to join with an unlikely ally to free them. Sera Gamble directed the episode written by John Showalter (#621)."
After such note even people indifferent about this storyline started ranting. Some were unpleasently surpirised this story is not over yet, some of them haven't noticed the moment when a bitch and her brat had become more important than Sam. I find a little comfort in the fact the hate for Lisa on message boards is growing. But that can't totally compensate the loss of my favourite TV show.
I don't get what is so difficult in understanding WHY fans hate Lisa.
I can divide the anti-Lisa stuff into groups:
1) Her behaviour - she's worse than prostitues on this show. Why? I hate woman who are sluty but pretend to be someone better than they really are. She is not responsible person, she got pregnant with some random guy but even after that "incident" didn't change. Of course she lives in the suburbs but all we know about her is that she chats with her neighbours about her ex-lovers and supposedly is a yoga instuctor (yoga my ass ;) ). She can't maintain a normal relationship for the sake of her son.
When Dean visited her after 10 years from the moment they had sex (one night stand!!), she invited a stranger to live with her. Becaouse yes... Dean maybe saved her kid, but was just a starnger. You don't know a person just because you spent a night with him/her. How responsible is that? That's not normal. You don't invite e.g. a fireman, a policeman or whoever who rescued your kid to live with you! That was very awkward.
About two years after that, when Dean went to her (without speaking or thinkikg of her for the entire period of time - so another "WTF?" moment) she was willing to take him in. She was at home, as usual... waiting to invite a stranger.
What kind of mother does that? Desperate, alcoholic, abusing drugs...
2) Her character - there was never any indication that Dean Winchester could be intrested in a woman like this. She doesn't make you say "WOW" (jaw falls down) when you see her and hear her. She's the worst kind of woman IMO. I despise "housewives" who don't have ANY character. And this is Lisa: boring, bland, unsophisticated, simple like not very well educated person, woman. She doesn't have any connections to supernatural world - she's not an expert on anything, she's not a hunter and she's not intrested in all that stuff. What could Dean possibly talk with her about? Teeth whitening?
There is no connection between them on any level. It's not possible that ordinary wowan from the suburbs could be appealing to "the Dean Winchester".
3) Her storyline - which was about... boring life in the suburbia and a kind of instuction "how to make a hunter's life miserable". This terrible mother put her needs (mainly the need of having a man in her bed) first. She didn't care both for her child's wellbeing nor for Dean's. As long as he played house with her she didn't care. It was kinda insulting for Dean that he had to stay for a year with a woman with whom he couldn't really share his thoughts and fears and who didn't accept him. Lisa expected Dean to switch from one life to another swiftly. Which eventually brought this show the soap-opera zone.
4) She destroyed one of the main characters - yes, Dean was rewritten to fit to her. That's outrageous that he was out of character. He didn't act more mature and was so soft because of his deep feelings for Lisa and Ben. No, he was a wussy, whiny, wimp in an unhealthy relationship. The "old DW" wouldn't be like that when his brother was in Hell.
5) It was poor choice of actress - this is a topic for another discussion.
I hate every single thing about this character and storyline. It started with "WTF?" moment when Lisa first opened her door. Soon I discoverd that it was all this stupid cow could do: open the door.
The 6.21 is comming and though I know it is filmed and ready to be aired I feel like I must say something. Some of the anti-Lisa fans speculate Lisa might be a supernatural creature... which would explain all the stupid behaviour and the lack of feelings, chemistry and understanding. I'd like that. But I don't trust the writers. They don't seem to acknowledge what is wrong with Lisa, Ben and this whole mess - ergo... they didn't fix that.
My patience is almost gone. Now, I almost hate this show. If Lisa and Ben are not gone for good after finale, I'm done with this show.
BTW, rename it please! "Jefferson Starships" would be appropriate title. Because... Lisa and Ben are horrible and hard to kill.
I guess it's about time for a new entry... I recently didn't post anything new since there were only Lisa-free episodes. However I came to conclusion that I can't watch Supernatural like I used to do it before. Now, I see this show in a completely new light, through Lisa f*ing Braeden lens. "Thanks" to Lisa and her annoying brat I wanted to slap Dean in his dull face during Mommy Dearest. How many times am I going to be forced to watch experienced hunter who is so... soft and useless when he sees kids? Unable to think clearly?
I really, really wanted him to get hurt and I wanted Cas and the others to insult Dean... for not taking his own advise:
"You know who whines? -Babies"
Maybe the monster-kids were supposed to remind Dean and Sam of themselves but to me it was a message: "Dean likes kids because he loves Ben and is thinking about him". I hate that. I hate the fact that we're suppose to believe Dean cares about Ben. He does, in a way.. because he cares for all the people (God knows why).
But Ben in particular? Ben is an artificial child. Children around 9 or 10 years old don't behave like he did in TKAAR. They hardly ever listen to AC/DC, dress like rock stars and are intrested in girls (!?!). Children raised by singles mothers don't like their "new uncles", don't trust them and certainly don't get attached to them so easily. Apparently Ben is super-stupid kid who thought Dean was his new daddy/slave (and also that his mother goes to bed with men on the third date... hahahaha - writers, was this joke intentional?) and started whinning like a girl in M3TR.
You see? I can't watch Supernatural. The magic is gone, all I see now is a comedy. No, wait... "a parody". That is a perfect word. Because how can you call episodes that are just pure fan service? I should be glad that second half of S6 mercifully offered Lisa-free episodes but I'm not. I'm not a fan of meta/comedic/strange - I don't know how to call them - episodes. I don't find them funny at all (The French Mistake, Frontierland, Clap You Hnads When You Believe - 1st half) and they are fillers. Nothing more. I feel like I was served five good episodes out of 19 so far. Episodes with Lisa and Ben are by default horrible, the rest is devided into fanfiction and the good ones.
Yeah... so many episodes to watch! (said with irony if you didn't notice). Speaking of irony: I wonder whether a person who wrote the description of 6.21 knows what that is.
"DEAN’S WORST NIGHTMARE COMES TRUE – A demon kidnaps Ben (guest star Nicholas Elia) and Lisa(guest star Cindy Sampson) to get to Dean (Jensen Ackles). Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean are forced to join with an unlikely ally to free them. Sera Gamble directed the episode written by John Showalter (#621)."
After such note even people indifferent about this storyline started ranting. Some were unpleasently surpirised this story is not over yet, some of them haven't noticed the moment when a bitch and her brat had become more important than Sam. I find a little comfort in the fact the hate for Lisa on message boards is growing. But that can't totally compensate the loss of my favourite TV show.
I don't get what is so difficult in understanding WHY fans hate Lisa.
I can divide the anti-Lisa stuff into groups:
1) Her behaviour - she's worse than prostitues on this show. Why? I hate woman who are sluty but pretend to be someone better than they really are. She is not responsible person, she got pregnant with some random guy but even after that "incident" didn't change. Of course she lives in the suburbs but all we know about her is that she chats with her neighbours about her ex-lovers and supposedly is a yoga instuctor (yoga my ass ;) ). She can't maintain a normal relationship for the sake of her son.
When Dean visited her after 10 years from the moment they had sex (one night stand!!), she invited a stranger to live with her. Becaouse yes... Dean maybe saved her kid, but was just a starnger. You don't know a person just because you spent a night with him/her. How responsible is that? That's not normal. You don't invite e.g. a fireman, a policeman or whoever who rescued your kid to live with you! That was very awkward.
About two years after that, when Dean went to her (without speaking or thinkikg of her for the entire period of time - so another "WTF?" moment) she was willing to take him in. She was at home, as usual... waiting to invite a stranger.
What kind of mother does that? Desperate, alcoholic, abusing drugs...
2) Her character - there was never any indication that Dean Winchester could be intrested in a woman like this. She doesn't make you say "WOW" (jaw falls down) when you see her and hear her. She's the worst kind of woman IMO. I despise "housewives" who don't have ANY character. And this is Lisa: boring, bland, unsophisticated, simple like not very well educated person, woman. She doesn't have any connections to supernatural world - she's not an expert on anything, she's not a hunter and she's not intrested in all that stuff. What could Dean possibly talk with her about? Teeth whitening?
There is no connection between them on any level. It's not possible that ordinary wowan from the suburbs could be appealing to "the Dean Winchester".
3) Her storyline - which was about... boring life in the suburbia and a kind of instuction "how to make a hunter's life miserable". This terrible mother put her needs (mainly the need of having a man in her bed) first. She didn't care both for her child's wellbeing nor for Dean's. As long as he played house with her she didn't care. It was kinda insulting for Dean that he had to stay for a year with a woman with whom he couldn't really share his thoughts and fears and who didn't accept him. Lisa expected Dean to switch from one life to another swiftly. Which eventually brought this show the soap-opera zone.
4) She destroyed one of the main characters - yes, Dean was rewritten to fit to her. That's outrageous that he was out of character. He didn't act more mature and was so soft because of his deep feelings for Lisa and Ben. No, he was a wussy, whiny, wimp in an unhealthy relationship. The "old DW" wouldn't be like that when his brother was in Hell.
5) It was poor choice of actress - this is a topic for another discussion.
I hate every single thing about this character and storyline. It started with "WTF?" moment when Lisa first opened her door. Soon I discoverd that it was all this stupid cow could do: open the door.
The 6.21 is comming and though I know it is filmed and ready to be aired I feel like I must say something. Some of the anti-Lisa fans speculate Lisa might be a supernatural creature... which would explain all the stupid behaviour and the lack of feelings, chemistry and understanding. I'd like that. But I don't trust the writers. They don't seem to acknowledge what is wrong with Lisa, Ben and this whole mess - ergo... they didn't fix that.
My patience is almost gone. Now, I almost hate this show. If Lisa and Ben are not gone for good after finale, I'm done with this show.
BTW, rename it please! "Jefferson Starships" would be appropriate title. Because... Lisa and Ben are horrible and hard to kill.
Wednesday, March 16, 2011
Saturday, March 5, 2011
And Then There Were None
Season 6, episode 16
Nope, no "Lisa" and I haven't heard her name. However, a mysterious question asked by Sam caught my attention: Why did Dean keep talking about herpes?
Hmm....Lisa? (stupid question ;P )
Poor Dean.... hahahaha
Nope, no "Lisa" and I haven't heard her name. However, a mysterious question asked by Sam caught my attention: Why did Dean keep talking about herpes?
Hmm....Lisa? (stupid question ;P )
Poor Dean.... hahahaha
Sunday, February 27, 2011
Discussion on the boards
I have said many things about the character of Lisa and this storyline. I really hate the destruction she caused both to the show and to the character of Dean. After the 6.14 episode and supposedly "the end" of Lisa/Ben/Dean story, I was thinking about all the reasons why SN should never ever end like a soap-opera (e.g. with Dean going to Lisa).
Since I'm not a very eloquent person, I'd like to present an interesting post written by Ravanne which points out not mentioned before issues :
Since I'm not a very eloquent person, I'd like to present an interesting post written by Ravanne which points out not mentioned before issues :
The idea that some Lisa fans keep floating around, that Lisa is meant to be Dean's "end game" and that he will end up with her when the series wraps up is one that I find really frustrating. Even if you had an emotional investment in Lisa as a character and her relationship with Dean, a bit question has to loom. Just how long is Lisa supposed to sit around and wait for Dean to figure out what he wants in life?Source
Seriously... this whole senario of Dean being this helpless creature buffeted by the winds of fate is just grating on my nerves. Dean is a grown man, folks! An emotionally damaged one with more issues than the archives at National Geographic, but is is an adult. He is capable of making decisions for himself. If he wanted to stay with Lisa, or to find a real balance between having both a domestic life and being with his brother, he certainly didn't fight for it. He wasn't trying to convince Lisa to give it another chance, or to explain what happened. He just accepted her decision to end things.
When he accepted her decision, without trying to change her mind, that was making a choice. His rational was weak - that he's not worthy of being with her and he'll ruin her and Ben. But he made a choice. If he wanted to be with Lisa as much as the LisaShippers insist, why didn't he fight just a little bit? Instead the whole thing was simply played out as a reason to give us another double-dose of MopeyDean with his personal Black Raincloud of Saddness over his head.
And as for Lisa... whether you like this character or not, she is entitled to have a happy life, whether with Dean or in another realtionship. How long is she and Ben supposed to put their lives on hold until Dean gets his act together? They never confirmed Lisa's age in the show, but I always got the impression that she was a few years older than Dean. At the youngest, this is a woman in her mid-thirties now and time isn't standing still. Her son is going to be a teenager before long. Their lives can't stop just because Dean can't figure out what he wants to do with himself. If Lisa meets someone that can make her happy and give her and Ben the lives they want, then great for her! Ben's already spent most of his life without a father figure - should he have to wait until he's a grown man himself before Dean comes to the decision that he wants to take Ben to Little League games? At the rate Dean is going, Ben will have kids of his own by the time Dean figures things out.
How long should Lisa have to wait for Dean? It already has been given the impression that she's waited at least since TKAA for Dean to come back into her life. Should she put her life on hold until she's old and gray and maybe Dean will decide to be with her? That's not fair to her. I've never hidden my dislike for her as a character, but as a woman the idea that any female should be expected to sit around and wait because she might be good for a man when he finally gets his act together... the word for that is "pathetic".
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